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Learn Chinese – 13th floor & 14th floor – Page 2 -

Posted by courlearnoncn @ 6:39 AM, Sunday Nov 30th, 2008

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Wuliao –

I would have thought that 13 was a Christian thing. And 666.

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Jasmine –

i just know that in US….the buildings are that high that …your eyes roll alll the way
up….and u feel dizzy when u stop looking.

smithsgj –

I can see Taipei 101 from my balcony. And, guess what, my eyes sure are rolling!

Ian_Lee –

Here is the chart of the 101 tallest buildings in the world:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001338.html

In the movie Tomb Raider II, Lara Crofter parachuted from the world’s 6th tallest building –
Inrernational Financial Center — of Hong Kong into the Victoria Harbor.

Quest –

most of the top 15 are in China or Taiwan, kinda funny.

skylee –

Looks like the Chinese really love to 與天比高.

According to this website, Hong Kong ranks first in the world in number/area of high rise
buildings. I think this is more out of needs than vanity.

Also read this.

ala –

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_Lee

Regarding 掩耳盜鈴, Japanese language is more xenophobic than the Chinese language.Most
usually they pronounce 4 as “Yon” instead of “Shi” whenever/wherever is applicable.

also, nana for shichi (7). the only commonly used shi (4) in Japanese is for April: shigatsu.

but I don’t understand Mandarin, the tone in 4 and death are not the same. Are they the same in
Cantonese? In Shanghainese, 4 is like Mandarin si and death is same as Japanese shi; completely
different (consonant and vowel), no one relates the two together.

Quest –

the tones are different in Cantonese, but the pronunciations are the same.

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Pinyin – sentence problem -

Posted by courlearnoncn @ 5:59 AM, Sunday Nov 30th, 2008

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aboooot –

Dear friends,

trying to translate this LONG sentence

第四,国家体育场工程设计除一般工程中常见的总图、建筑、结构、给排水�
��暖通空调、电气、弱电通讯、经济等专业外,又根据本工程的特殊情况,�
�设了景观、燃气、体育工艺等专业,建筑专业又分设地下、地上、屋顶及膜
结构、体育工艺和三维设计等分项负责人,结构专业又分设钢结构和混凝土�
��构两专业并分设负责人,结合设计分包设混凝土预制构件、厨房工艺等专�
�,再加上HdeM建筑师、Arup工程师以及钢结构加工设计方、膜结构加工设计方�
��设计分项配合专业多达20余种,使得各项设计分工细化明确,利于各负其责
、提高设计深度和水平,但同时也加大了设计组织配合、协调管理的难度和�
��杂性。

I have a couple of problems
1) what is the subject of 结合?
2) what does 厨房工艺 mean in this context?

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monto –

Quote:

1) what is the subject of 结合?
2) what does 厨房工艺 mean in this context?

1) Still the 国家体育场工程设计. It is subject for 1)一般工程…
2)工程的特殊情况 3) 结合….

It is escalating structure, from general to special, and special among specials.

2) Technique/technology in chicken design. —— The work is for China to do, but the people come
from all over the world. Food service is really special one among others.

aboooot –

Dear Monto,

I’m sorry but it still not clear:

国家体育场工程设计与什么结合什么?
The design of the project of the National Stadium besides the usual special fields such as (….),
because of its peculiarity, it also has other special fields (…). For the different special
fields there are differen responsibles for the several subitems…

and then it is not clear that 结合

monto –

结合 here is not actually materially combine any thing, just should be understood as “combined
as addition in consideration”, in Chinese “结合。。。。方面的考虑”, that is why I
list it as 3). It should be the second of the second consideration in logics.

aboooot –

Sorry to bother you again

so does it mean that
…also the subcontracts of the design are divided in special fields such as prefabricated
components in concrete, kitchen thechnology etc. and if you add the special fields of the
architects HdeM, the Arup engeneers, the people who produce the structure, the people who produce
the membrane there are together up to 20 different special fields that….

monto –

I think so.

The whole paragraph looks to me that:

Detail listing of things of/related to 国家体育场工程设计 followed by the conclusive
ending
“使得各项设计分工细化明确,利于各负其责、提高设计深度和水平,但同时
也加大了设计组织配合、协调管理的难度和复杂性。”

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HSK – 30 day extensions? -

Posted by courlearnoncn @ 8:39 AM, Saturday Nov 29th, 2008

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deterius –

Hello
I know things are changing everyday- but im wondering what you guys think.
I have a 90day visa that expires Aug 18th, and I want to extend it at the public security bureau
for 30days? Is that still do-able?

Or are they just complete dropping that option?

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opposingthumbs –

Depends on what sort of visa it is. If it is an F-visa then there is no way to extend it beyond
Jul 1. If it is an L-visa (tourist visa) then you should be able to extend it. I just extended
mine last week.

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