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Horse –

I’ve been having a really tough time trying to get hold of an electronic dictionary which will do
everything i want and wont cost a fortune. what i need is a dictionary where you can write the
chinese character on the screen and then it will give you pin-yin with tones and a defintion in
English. I know a friend got one in Chongqing for about 550 kuai, but all the ones i find with
this spec are about 1000 which i really cant afford. Can anyone recommend a good, cheap model (i
think the best ive seen is the 不不搞 9288s), or does anyone even want to sell me their old
one? any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
cheers

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kora-雨 –

it is 步步高，sorry i have no used models to give you, and i think the price of 500 more are
very cheap, maybe it just can buy from china, you can ask someone buy it in china and bring to
you. i am stay in china these days, maybe i can buy it for you and send you by mailing, if you
need my help, just contact me. my email address is korange.wang@gmail.com

aimei –

There is a good online dictionary I think might help you. The site is www.zhongwen.com, easy to
remember. Hope that helps.

aimei –

There is a good online dictionary I think is just as good as any portable electronic dictionary
I’ve come across. The site is www.zhongwen.com, easy to remember. Hope that helps.

Horse –

cheers aimee.
yes thanks Kora, it should be “步步高”, it was the computer not me honest

teachinator –

Horse,

I got the bubugao 9288s, and it’s not working out for me at all. I do not recommend it for
students of Chinese. It’s really intended for Chinese speakers learning English, not vice versa.

For example, it doesn’t do things that are critical for a student of Chinese, like giving a list
of popular compounds and their English equivalents when you look up a character. Furthermore, I
can’t find a way to get it to give me the definition of most compounds (when I look up a character
it offers just a few compounds), so it is often no help to me when I’m stuck. Frustratingly, I can
enter a compound on the screen but there is no apparent way to get the dictionary to look it up!

It rarely recognizes my handwritten Chinese input (even when I think it’s really accurate), so
looking up new characters with manual input is a very frustrating effort. The Chinese characters
are small on the screen so it’s not easy to use the dictionary to help learn a new character.
Furthermore, it takes several keystrokes every time I start up the device to get to the dictionary
I want. It’s got a lot of extras for helping Chinese learn English (like listening exercise), but
nothing in the opposite direction.

All the on-screen instructions are in Chinese and when I went through them with a Chinese friend;
there didn’t appear to be an option to switch to English instructions. I didn’t get a manual with
at at all (bought it at the big electronics store here and now think I may have been the object of
a shady sale even though I went with a trusted local friend). The bubugao site is all in Chinese
so I haven’t been able to ask them for help or if there’s a manual with English.

In short, this dictionary has been a source of frustration at least as often as it’s been useful.
It’s not useless, but it’s not at all satisfying as a language learning tool. If possible, I am
going to buy a Palm and Plecodict and try to sell the 9288s to a Chinese student for whom it will
probably be a very good tool (and MP3 player, calendar, etc.)

Horse –

Hi Teachinator,
Thanks for your reply. I have tried to write you a private message re; this matter but cant for
some reason, can send your hotmail or something.
Thanks

adrianlondon –

I bought a Besta when in Singapore a couple of years ago. It does have English menus but – and
this took me a while to work out – I needed to switch to the chinese menus in order to switch from
traditional to simplified characters. Then I could switch back to the English menus.

It’s full of crap like a diary, some notes thing, lots of pretty pictures etc etc all designed for
students learning ENGLISH. It recognises my handwriting really well (but then I write quite neat -
like a child – and my strokes are in the correct order if that matters) but, as was said above, it
just does a direct match and not much else. No good compound searching.

I’ve given it to my Taiwanese partner who uses it often. I have the Palm TX and Plecodict. There’s
another current thread on this very subject where I posted almost the same thing as here, so maybe
they could be merged? The Palm (or some sort of Treo phone thing) plus Plecodict is fantastic. Not
cheap, but much better; much much better, than anything else I’ve seen.

Plus you get a PDA thrown in, so to speak

teachinator –

Once bitten, twice shy: If I buy the Palm TX in Beijing, do you know if there’s any danger of
getting a Chinese-language-oriented one or are all Palm models the same worldwide? I would hate to
repeat a mistake, and at a much higher cost, to boot.

roddy –

You’ll get a standard-issue palm, with the advantage of some essential software (CJKOS and
PenPower) already installed. Whoever you buy it from should help you set it up, just make sure
they know you want English as the main language. I’m not even sure if there’s a fully Chinese OS
for Palm.

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Plus you get a PDA thrown in, so to speak

Absolutely – I’ve said this before, but I got a PDA for Plecodict. I now use the PDA for reading,
surfing, email on an almost daily basis, with occassional music / movie use. Don’t use the
personal organizer software, though I should . . .

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Popup Chinese Translator for Firefox!!
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xentropic –

Finally theres a plugin for Firefox that will allow you to mouse over chinese and get a popup that
gives you the pinyin pronuncation and english meaning. I modded the plugin Rikai-chan which did
the same to Japanese along with adding the ability to export the word you highlighted to an
external file you can use to add to a flashcard list or something like that. It searches the
CEDICT dictionary file which doesnt seem to have anywhere near the entries the japanese EDICT has,
but its better than nothing. If all else fails , you can at least get a character by character
reading. In the options you menu you can choose Simplified or Traditional which will change what
gets displayed in the popup AND what version will be exported (if you choose both it will export
both but display simplified in teh popup). Currently the export format is in GB2312 so it might
looked scrambled in notepad or something but will read correctly when you import your list into a
flashcard program that reads that encoding. Later I will add more features and fix little things
here and there (I modded it in 5 hours) but it is way more than usable now so I figured it release
it rather than using just for myself. Enjoy!! Comments/Ideas welcome.

peraperakun at gmail.com
get it here: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3349/

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necroflux –

Trying it out right now, I’ll let you know how it goes.

gato –

Why does it say “please install a dictionary for peraperakun” when I try to toggle it on?

xentropic –

do you have rikaichan installed also, apparently theres a resource confict with that ?? ill fix it
in a few days, it worked fine on 4 computers that i tested it on

gato –

No, never had rikaichan installed. I do have moji installed, however.

necroflux –

Got the same message here, I don’t have any dictionaries installed to my knowledge.

xentropic –

yea your right there was something in the code looking for a dictionary to be installed….fixed
that problem, sorry about that, i double checked it this time should work. so please uninstall it
and try the new one. v0.1.1

ive been using it for awhile and so has my friend and finally decided to put it up for people so
there might be a few problems at the beginning on other peoples machines…dunno

doumeizhen –

can you give us the new link, please?

xentropic –

i uploaded the fix like over 12 hours ago but its waiting “approval” from mozilla which is just an
automated script that checks the files validity, once thats over it will be on the same site and
appear as ver 0.1.1 dunno when that will ever happen, but when it does you can download it from
the same site

atitarev –

Yes, give us the new download link, please!

I am an active user of Rikaichan. Hanzi Bar is similar but Rikaichan has a better look-and-feel, I
was looking forward to this innovation!

The alternative is Hanzi Bar, you can read any Chinese web-page in your Firefox, and you can do it
off-line, too.

Hanzi Bar:
http://realimaginary.com/
It’s a bit tricky, you also need to install dictionaries (separate download)

Let’s see what peraperakun does!

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flameproof –

And you get free on top:

“‘Fried Chicken Chest’ and Other Foibles: …”

Is that some sort of KFC coupon? Does it include fries as well?

I am highly skeptical of anything instant and effortless, and the sensational ad does not look
very convincing too. And I am not a friend of KFC too……

BTW, I find rule #12 interesting:

The biggest lie that people are probably telling you about all those so-called shortcuts to faster
learning.

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David W Jackson –

” ..having said that he does have some very good insights into learning the language”. Any chance
Shadowh you can tell us what they are? Save us the price of admission. Thanks.

Shadowdh –

Not sure if I could do that… Roddy, would that open up some copyright complications…???

flameproof –

How can be quoting from a book a copyright violation? As long as you don’t copy and paste the
whole book, or publish it under your name….

PS: since you (from other threat) go on to full time language study I presume didn’t do the
trick…. I am still curious though

Shadowdh –

Good point Flameproof… I suppose if I reference properly and dont paste the whole thing… give
me a day or so…

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